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Property owners hear about some of the financial complications involved with gas drilling agreements.

Although planning for what to do with gas-lease profits is a problem most people wouldn’t mind having, landowners likely aren’t eager to add paperwork to the already document-laden gas-leasing process.

Experts, however, say protecting the wealth is the same as accumulating it in the first place.

“I’ve seen some horror stories, and if it means going to an attorney and paying a few dollars, it’s worth it,” said Ronald Honeywell, a trust officer with Luzerne Bank who spoke at a seminar on the financial implications of gas leases on Monday evening at Lake-Lehman Junior-Senior High School.

Past seminars on leasing have packed the school’s auditorium, but Monday’s seminar on taxes and investing attracted perhaps 50 people. Presenters admitted that financial topics aren’t often looked forward to but are important nonetheless.

Of particular interest were leasing’s tax implications, such as drilling’s effect on county Clean and Green tax abatement programs. Michelle O’Brien, an attorney with Rosenn, Jenkins & Greenwald in Wilkes-Barre, said drilling would roll back seven years of abatements.

“It’s only fair that the oil company pays that price because they’re the ones kicking you out of Clean and Green,” she said.

However, she pointed out that the company’s payment would likely be a reimbursement, meaning the landowner should be prepared to pay the penalty.

“It sounds like a simple concept, but the money could be a lot of money,” she said, perhaps up to $100,000.

O’Brien also pointed out leases allow landowners to retain control over the location of pipelines and other infrastructure because the property’s marketability could drop depending on where such things are placed.

Even with legal exemption clauses, landowners should retain liability insurance, she said, to cover situations not directly caused by the drilling processes, such as all-terrain vehicles crashes or youths getting hurt on the equipment.

Robert Lawrence, a certified public accountant, explained that the royalties and sign-on bonuses are passive income, similar to rental income, which means they can push landowners into higher tax brackets and impact Social Security or Medicare payments. He suggested that people receiving royalties discuss paying installments on the estimated taxes.

Passing the wealth along creates its own pitfalls, noted Lee Piatt, also with Rosenn, Jenkins & Greenwald. Financial planning and distribution of the proceeds through family corporations or other outlets can avoid some of that, he said.

While it can cause headaches, the increased tax burden can also make some investments more enticing, said Arthur Daube, an investment adviser with Park Avenue Securities. Though their return is low, municipal bonds are tax-free by law, he said, so they can act as havens for profits.

O’Brien also pointed out leases allow landowners to retain control over the location of pipelines and other infrastructure.

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Topics like reporting leasing income, transferring leases to beneficiaries to be covered.

The temptation to just sign could seem irresistible. With a few strokes of the pen, some people in the region are being offered the chance to completely change their lives with natural gas leases.

But first, they’re warned, make peace with the fact that the next person will get more. Check the maps, they’re told, check the deed, hire a lawyer, test the water. How much environmental damage is acceptable? How about hassles to daily life?

For those not involved, think Beverly Hillbillies, minus that improbable shot, and then exchange the endearing high jinks for hours of tedious title searching, legal work and stressful decisions with lifelong implications.

So who could blame anyone for simply signing and hiding behind the wads of cash? Well, their children, for one. Because with the great benefits of gas royalties come the great responsibilities of taxation and profit allocation, and, if they’re ignored, the great headaches of the judicial system and familial infighting.

“People are just seeing the (money) as a way to pay taxes … and not thinking about having to report it to the IRS and the tax implications that could have on them … or thinking about general financial planning or investing,” wrote Donna Skog Grey in an e-mail.

Grey, who works for the Penn State Cooperative Extension in Luzerne County, says the extension has been fielding questions on gas leases, environmental issues and lessee rights. What to do with the money, however, hasn’t come up often, she noted, which is why the extension is sponsoring workshops on what to do after the lease is signed but before the money rolls in.

One is planned for Lake-Lehman Junior/Senior High School on Aug. 25.

“There may be some strategies available to reduce the income tax,” said Dale Tice, an attorney with Greevy & Associates, a Williamsport law firm consulting on gas leases. “That’s something they would want to work out with their accountant or financial advisor prior to receiving the payment.”

The workshop will cover various topics, including how to report leasing income – the cash bonuses are just like regular income – transferring leases to beneficiaries and investment options.

“Certainly the cash-bonus payment is an issue,” Tice said. “It could push somebody up into a higher tax bracket. … You’re looking at a large potential tax hit, and without using the strategies that are available, you’ve got issues (in the event of) divorce, creditors.”

To add to confusion, there are health-care implications with elderly lessees who are currently eligible for Medicare or Medicaid, he said.

He noted some families are creating limited-liability companies to distribute the proceeds, and that family limited partnerships can make dividing up ownership of the lease similar to issuing stock.

“Really, the issue here is providing governance, keeping the parents in control of the resource while they’re alive, but at the same time providing for an orderly and easy shift of equity to the next generation,” Tice said. “I don’t think that you have to have it necessarily worked out before you receive your cash-bonus payment, but certainly there’s no disadvantage to thinking about these issues earlier rather than later.”

If you go

A natural gas-leasing workshop entitled “Managing Natural Gas Lease and Royalty Income” is scheduled for 7 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. Monday, Aug. 25 at the Lake-Lehman Junior/Senior High School. The cost is $10 per person. To make reservations, call the Penn State Cooperative Extension at 1-888-825-1701.

Rory Sweeney, a Times Leader staff writer, may be reached at 970-7418.

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